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    Hello everyone!

    Been browsing the newbie forums for a bit and you fine fellows seem friendly and eager to help, so time for me to burden you with my questions and inquiries!

    I registered months ago for the t2g info package and interview with a rep and didn't hear from anyone for ages... and just as i'd forgotten about it i was contacted by the team to set up a meeting with a rep. within a couple of days i've been interviewed, bombarded with info on the course and given a place (so long as i enroll within the next 4 days)... which is brilliant news... but a bit short notice to be fair. on a scale of 'a little apprehensive' to 'freaking out' i'd say i'm a 4 and 1/4 and if i take into account my bank balance right now, then i'd round it up to a 5 (spelled with an S, an I and an X)!

    So my first question for the veterans is: how's your experience on the course been so far? how is this course format working out for you? and (for those who are now completing the course or have done so already) any thoughts or advice?

    From what i understood from the avalanche of info i was given today this is an all inclusive course that goes through all bases of game production... oooor am i making up things now?

    Personally i am more likely gonna be focusing on the game design aspect of game production, rather than programming, animation etc. (though i'm keeping an open mind). So i'd be very interested to hear (read) what those of you who have chosen to specialise in this field have to say about the course and also perhaps your thoughts on what's to follow this diploma.

    The rep i spoke to earlier today, as well as some of you guys in the forums have names-dropped some real heavy-weights of the industry. But really, be honest now, as fantastic as it is that the game developers have built this course, what are the chances that say Peter Molyneux will be offering any of us a jay-oh-bee once we have the qualifications (and the actual know-how)? That wasn't a rhetorical question dressed up as cute sarcasm btw. I really would like to know from you guys who are taking the course and especially those of you who have completed the course what lies ahead and whether you have been 'absorbed' by the industry.

    Right... that's all i had to ask for now. 'Scuse the essay, but i'm a liiittle overwhelmed atm!

    anyway, thanks in advance!

    over and out

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    Hi there Jelli, welcome to the forums and (hopefully) your new course! It seems that you are mostly interesting in the games design aspect of game development (so I can't really help you there! :P), but I can give you some words of advice about the course and the like!

    I'm not surprised that you are freaking out a little bit in regards to how 'out of the blue' this all seems - I think it has happened to a lot of students on here. Personally, for me, I had to literally pester T2G for a few months (with several leaflets from newspaper ads, telephone calls and e-mails) and eventually, they had somebody who would appear in my local area in order to sign me up to the course. A few days later, a guy comes over and he explains some introduction stuff to me, and then a few hours later, *boom*, I've just signed up for the Game Developer course! :P

    So, what I'd say first of all is 'Don't Panic!'. The course is designed to be taken at your own time and pace around your work commitments and the like, so don't worry if you feel that you aren't going to be able to work more than 5 hours a week on the material - just make sure that with those 5 hours that you work hard and stay focused on the task at hand! In terms of money, I can understand that it is a big undertaking, so if things are tight, you might want to consider your options if you can really afford the 5k that you'll have to pay off over the course of 3 years. However, if this is what you really want, and if you are truly passionate and willing to work extra hard to get where you want to be - you can land that job in the games industry and make a success out of your studies.

    My thoughts on my experience on the course so far, quite simply, is pretty damn fantastic! Admittedly, I wasted a lot of my allotted time due to other life commitments (such as working on my A-Levels and then preparing for university etc.), but I've recently really got back into the course and I've been making great progress so far! Hopefully I'll attempt the Section 1 exam by the end of next week! :P

    I'd say that the course format is great for people who have a lot of other commitments in their lives, especially people who already have families etc. The fact that I can take some time off of the course to focus on the more immediate life issues is a real 'weight off the shoulders'. It means that I can just pick up from where I left off when it suits me, and I am not pressured into thinking that I am behind everybody else! You can do as much as you like, when you like - which suits me down to the ground (as a student who is currently studying a degree that requires a LOT of extra hours, on top of the hours that I already have to do, leaving not much time at the end of the day! :P).

    As far as people who have completed the course is concerned...well...there are none, for any of the courses - although there are few who are close. It's not so much that shiny piece of paper that you receive at the end of the 3 years that the industry will be looking for, but rather what you learnt from your experiences doing the course and the quality of your portfolio work (besides, Train2Game has only been around for a few years now, and recognition of the course is slow; although we have recently attained City & Guilds status, which is a huge step in the right direction). However, please don't despair, as a lot of students who have studied T2G courses have gained placements in the games industry, and some have even managed to land that elusive job!

    In terms of advice, what else would you like? As you mentioned, there are a lot of friendly and helpful people on this forum who are willing to help you with virtually anything - from general issues about how to attempt the course material in the best way possible, to technical issues, like getting Windows 8 working for the next Game Jam! :P So, whatever happens, don't forget that you have people here who are willing to listen to your queries and help you as best as they can!

    I hope some of that helped, but if not, feel free to ask for more info from the games design veterans on here (there are quite a few for sure! )


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostDrake View Post
    Hi there Jelli, welcome to the forums and (hopefully) your new course! It seems that you are mostly interesting in the games design aspect of game development (so I can't really help you there! :P), but I can give you some words of advice about the course and the like!

    ...

    I hope some of that helped, but if not, feel free to ask for more info from the games design veterans on here (there are quite a few for sure! )
    Thanks for the response frostdrake! That was very helpful... xcept for the windows 8 reference... you lost me there ( <---- mac user, don't hold it against me)! which actually begs the question: there shouldn't be any issues with me running this course using a different os than windows... right?!

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    Hey Jelli,

    Welcome to train2game and the forums.

    As far as I know, train2game doesn't support the use of macs.
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    The Windows 8 reference was mostly a hint towards all of the setup difficulties that people have been having for the Game Jam preparation! Probably wasn't so good to quote that! :P

    Also, I'm glad you brought that up actually! :P I'm afraid that the answer to your question is 'Yes', there will be a problem with running the course material DVDs. This is because they are designed to run on Windows (XP and upwards I believe), and not Macs! I know nothing about Macs, but you should be able to dualboot your Mac with a Windows OS, and then you can run the DVDs of that instead, I think!

    EDIT: It looks like Calibur and MattB beat to the punch! :P


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostDrake View Post
    The Windows 8 reference was mostly a hint towards all of the setup difficulties that people have been having for the Game Jam preparation! Probably wasn't so good to quote that! :P

    Also, I'm glad you brought that up actually! :P I'm afraid that the answer to your question is 'Yes', there will be a problem with running the course material DVDs. This is because they are designed to run on Windows (XP and upwards I believe), and not Macs! I know nothing about Macs, but you should be able to dualboot your Mac with a Windows OS, and then you can run the DVDs of that instead, I think!

    EDIT: It looks like Calibur and MattB beat to the punch! :P
    Thanks fellas for clearing that up a little for me... i had brought it up during my interview (even showed my work on my computer) and the rep kinda deflected the question, which led me to assume that my os wouldn't be a problem. kinda glad i stalled signing on the dotted line now ^^'

    one last (maybe) question, or favour rather. could any of you let me know what programs you're using as part of the course (and how do you get your hands on those too)? just so i can check what i already have and what i should be looking at. i really wanna avoid at all costs dualbooting... seems almost sacrilegious :-P plus it is a laptop so, as resilient as it has been, i don't want to push my luck. i heavily depend on this machine for my work :s

    and thanks for your patience and help guys! you just might have saved me a lot of grief.
    You rock!

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    Well, the programs that I use as part of the course won't strictly be relevant to you, since they are more programmer specific than designer specific! The only thing that you'll probably need to download (if you do decide to dualboot with a Windows OS) would be to get the Indeo Codec iv41 video decompressor or some such thing, but T2G provides a link to download that anyway (you need it to view the videos in the section DVDs). I'm sorry that I can't help you much more! :S Calibur should be able to help though, he is a designer who knows what he is talking about! :P I would probably still recommend trying to dualboot your PC, or maybe getting a new laptop/PC that has Windows 7 on it if dualbooting is too much hassle - you'll need the DVDs to submit the TMAs, which you need to do to make sure T2G knows how you're progressing, and so you can advance further with the content!


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    As someone who had a Macbook Pro, just use bootcamp and get a copy of Windows 7 from *cough* somewhere. I can't say where I'd get it from as this post would be deleted instantly

    I am also on the developers course, and whilst I do have my little problems with course course material the tutor team are ever patient and fast to respond, the forums will answer almost any question very quickly too, and companies are already hiring people before they even finish the course!

    Take your time with it, you don't have to fight for a place remember that you're paying THEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrard4000 View Post
    As someone who had a Macbook Pro, just use bootcamp and get a copy of Windows 7 from *cough* somewhere. I can't say where I'd get it from as this post would be deleted instantly
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    Take your time with it, you don't have to fight for a place remember that you're paying THEM.
    Thanks Gearrard! I'll consider bootcamp if it comes down to that and i definitely won't use a windows copy acquired from somewhere

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    I would advise it, as working from a Virtual Machine has it's problems (see other posts I created, when I attempted to do this).
    It is much easier to use a dual-boot system (bootcamp just does it for you).
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