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jimmybrick
06-05-2010, 07:43 AM
signed up on the course and i really dont know what to expect i love drawing especially japanesse and american manga and feel confident with a pencil in my hand. How different is creating digital art going to be?

whyte
06-05-2010, 08:36 AM
How different is creating digital art going to be?

Hi Jimmy,

Welcome to the course.
Creating digital art is going to be different, but it depends on what you are going to be creating and how you go about it.
I still like to draw with a pencil and use that as a start for my digital work -that could mean scanning in my pencil work to be inked and coloured in Photoshop for my 2D art work, or drawing image planes to be used in Maya/MAX to make 3D models from.

it's about making what you know work for you.
Good luck with the course and hope to see some of your work sometime.

Mr. Ninjutsu
06-05-2010, 09:03 AM
signed up on the course and i really dont know what to expect i love drawing especially japanesse and american manga and feel confident with a pencil in my hand. How different is creating digital art going to be?

Well speaking from experience, at university at which I am at whilst being on this course there are a variety of drawers in our class, one of which is a manga drawer. Whilst his artwork is good it's pretty useless when it comes to concept art as it's the wrong style especially when it comes to characters as there is hardly any detail in his drawing because of the style (I mean muscles/physique/proportion etc) he draws with.

Now i'm not saying he's useless but he needs to learn to draw more realistically to be well...lets face it any use to us at uni as 99.99% of everyone will not choose a manga art styled game and opt for more realism. It's just the way it is when starting out at times. I suggest you get a digital tablet and start practising drawing concept art for characters/environments etc in various art styles other than manga which will open up a world of opportunities for you.

Think Fable style environments or towards the more realistic. If you become good at drawing various art styles then you'll be a very wanted artist on here ;) I wish all the best for ya mate, I love concept art.

firefly =)
06-05-2010, 02:07 PM
im in the same boat as you matey, real new to all this stuff and have only dabbled in 3d art. If i find out any neat tricks ill let you know? and vice versa id be grateful :)

FeetheGiraffe
06-05-2010, 06:47 PM
Hiya :)

I am a traditional artist (Fine art painting and printing) and am self taught Digital (photoshop) so hope I can help in this area...

a drawing tablet is a must if you intend doing drawing/ painting digitally in my opinion as is using photoshop or simalar but would recomend PS as that is in the course sylibus... it's a steep learning curve from real life drawing but once you master PS you will love it I am sure the possibilities are seamingly endless with the artwork you can produce with your tablet and PS.

It takes some getting used to as it is very very different from oil paint or pencil and the tools can look very daugnting but perservere there are 100's of Utube vid tutorials on how to use layers /bushes/ channels etc and once you get going on it it will soon become easy and you'll wonder why you didn't use it before... play with it is my advise get to know the program and it will become second nature

To realastic characters these are very easy to achieve as they are mostly not hand drawn but are photos with some drawing to blend them into the UV mapping template/highlight muscles etc.. personally I prefer a more artistic game with hand drawn charaters.. I guess thats because I draw lol

Jay Zaine
06-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Seconded RE Digital Tablets.
Been looking into these myself recently. If you are used to working pen to paper then I think there is no question you should invest in a tablet as it will prove invaluable as you progress and will also help bridge the gap between traditional art skills and the digital. I reckon a few weeks of using a tablet and a little time with Photoshop and you wont ever want a pencil again. Tablets can be expensive but as a general rule I would say go for the largest drawing area you can. Trust seem to do some good sized ones for a reasonable price but I dont know what their quality is like. Once Ive done a bit more research i'll start a new thread on tablets specifically.

However just to make a point here, I believe most realistic characters faces ARE hand drawn, just not in the traditional sense. A model is built in say Mudbox and then could be textured and shaded by artists in programs such as Z-brush and while it is obviously possible to scan real faces for use in things such a FIFA games or anything with a specific celebrity need, most will opt for creating a face rather than using a real one. It may have been the case 3/4 years ago before systems could run detailed models well, to make up for the lack of fidelity (Goldeneye) but now all characters in say Gears of War, Heavy Rain etc are made without using photos (except of course for reference).

Interesting article here on character creation in Mass Effect 2 which gives better examples : http://www.pixologic.com/interview/mass-effect2/1/

firefly =)
06-06-2010, 12:31 PM
cheers guys :)

shirty
06-13-2010, 07:08 PM
I have just started on the course too but I have previous 3d experience
i would say its immensely different i always enjoyed pencil drawing but thb im appallingly bad at it.
i started 3d modelling because i wanted to be able to draw decent images and didnt have the ability to do it.
basically what im saying is there is no link between pencil and 3d, but i imagine that you will b excellent in photoshop with a little practice and defiantly get yourself a tablet.
As for learning 3d theres a lot to take in so take your time and don’t feel overwhelmed. Repetition and experimentation is the key to learning the software, that and the help files.
Hope you enjoy and best of luck

FeetheGiraffe
06-13-2010, 07:47 PM
basically what im saying is there is no link between pencil and 3d No there isn't if you intend having very basic characters or buying all your textures... but if you intend creating your own textures then you need to know how to use PS or simalar.. even if you buy them you will still need to know how to blend them so there is no seams when you wrap it around your model ... remeber when you UV map your creation that's your template for your textures... and belive me it looks dam silly if you have a million seams on something like a human skin becuase you dont know how to make sure every seam matches so they dont show and that is much better achieved if you can draw.

shirty
06-13-2010, 08:13 PM
yea texturing needs some PS skill but i was refering to the modelling stage as thats what jimmybrick will learn first. and that has no link to anything hand drawn its a totally different kettle of fish.

KageRyu
07-09-2010, 11:10 AM
hey guys, im new to this course also, i dont have a lot of experience, i love to draw but im no professional artist. the advisor said that being able to draw by hand isnt essential for 3d art. is he right? is this something im going to be able to do?

EDIT: Sorry shouldve read through properly, Shirty pretty much answered that for me xD but yea any advice would be appreciated ^^;

jimmybrick
07-09-2010, 07:15 PM
i would second this although not been able to draw isnt essential when using 3d programs but been able to draw and having smooth hand movements help enhance your workflow and speed